Saturday, April 30, 2022

Daughters of the American Revolution (D.A.R.)

TL;DR -- We have been touting the series of celebrations that arise through time where we are at an unique state of such. That is, the U.S. start is coming up on 250 years. Then, we have the ongoing 400th anniversaries being recognized. The 300th is too raw, as of yet, but we'll get there. Then, we have the 200th of the Jefferson deal, followed by the 100th of those who were less than a handful of generations back. For each, we can have a focus. This post is about the 250th celebrations. 

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Our look at the U.S. is from the viewpoint of 400 years of family history, where family encompasses literally 1000s of families. Some of these are involved with Harvard, which, thankfully, has been there from the beginning. 

Then, there is the 250th coming up that celebrates the split with the old King's realm. This is where D.A.R. comes in. As does, too, we might add, the view of S.A.R. (Sons). Then, there is C.A.R. (Children). These organizations are merely 125 years old, at most which means that they were not brought to be until 125  years after the start of the Revolution. 

Now, we have had several posts on these groups (search on DAR; we also use D.A.R.). One important one looks at several early loci with respect to Patriots, say Cape Ann to Patriot. This would be a subset of DAR's membership, since many Patriots were recent arrivals in the early to mid 1700s. 

We, at the TGS, Inc., like to add in that we are interested in Loyalists, as well. And, we need to keep a broader focus with concerns about New Spain, New France, and other attempts. 

Now, back to DAR. We were motivated to do this post due to a query about DAR being right-winged which seems to have gotten a lot of press. Gosh, it's non-political for the most part, as an organization. That is, one might say that it's of both wings. There will be members of various persuasions, however they get along as we would expect of a collection of mature Americans. Now, given the question, a quick search brought up several articles and books. 

This is a brief list meant to be illustrative of the discussion. The coverage by time is deliberate.

  • Case for and against DAR (1953) ... we start with what might be called a look at the "old" DAR. 
  • DAR-lings of NY (2003) ... some notion of the current state of multiversity. DAR has extended the definition of what is a Patriot. Rather than just boom-boom people, many types of support are recognized including the old folks who kept the administrative things going in the time of the turmoil (see note about Loyalists below). 
  • Who's a DAR? Answer grows more diverse. (2021) ... even more modern view.  
Before going on, look at this view of the same family with a Patriot and Loyalist mentioned. The former? One of the founders of the Society of Cincinnati. The latter? A decorated general of the earlier conflict, namely the French-Indian affair where the Crown trained the American officer corps (see Regimental History Series) very well, indeed. In this case, the former worked with Washington. The latter lived in peace unlike the reality of many loyalists who were abused. 

Now, the gist: DAR at Encyclopedia[dot]com. This quote got our attention. 
  • The constitution of the DAR mentioned three main objectives of the society: (1) to perpetuate the memory and spirit of the men and women who achieved American Independence; (2) to promote institutions of learning so that the young and old can develop the largest capacity for performing the duties of American Citizens; and (3) to cherish, maintain, and extend the institutions of American freedom and to foster true patriotism and love of country.
We'll leave it at that, for now. As, there are plenty of references to Winthrop's "city on a hill" concept, by allusion for the most part. Too, that the beacon (we chose Gardner's Beacon as the label for our newsletter) beckons and that many follow the call, pertains to much more than the dream of coming to the U.S. and exploiting the situation to screw people for the purposes of richness, fame, power, or what have you. 

You know, one approach to obtaining citizenship is to serve in the military. The reality is that only about 7% of the population does that. In WWII, Harvard had a huge percentage of its students enlist. At the same time, Hollywood actually tried to be part of the action (rather than the fantasy).  

Yes, Harvard (our History of Harvard) seems to have divorced itself from the country of its beginnings, but they do have a responsibility which accrued to the early start. That is something to put on the table for discussion. 

Remarks: Modified: 04/30/2022

04/30/2022 --

Friday, April 29, 2022

Edward Everett

TL;DR -- As we pursue the list of Heads, the sampling has been informal. Today, we pick by family name and look at Edward Everett who had quite a career outside of Harvard. He disliked the 'rowdy' students, one report said. But, he helped get an applied focus in place, namely science and engineering. Harvard over the 400 years of the U.S.? Significant in many ways. 

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Our look at the Heads of Harvard (Wikipedia) has been quite cursory so far. This one was interesting due to Edward Everett (Wikipedia) being about half-way from the start to now. Just a quick review brought up several topics to pursue. For instance, he has a solid New England pedigree; his wife has one that is even more complete. So, we will venture further in that domain than we have before, at some point. This post is a mere summary. 

Initially, the interests for looking at the Heads were several, but we can start with this list: 

After completing a first pass through the list, we will tie U.S. generations back to these Heads in terms of general views of the U.S. For instance, D.A.R., in an overview of their mission, stresses the upcoming 250th where the U.S. split from European influence, somewhat. It still had to contend various ways. On the other hand, D.A.R. notes that the whole idea of an American Spirit has lapsed. To us, that has been apparent for some time. Does having an old pedigree mean anything?

Okay, Harvard? Early on, it might have argued about a universal view where country was mere borders established somewhat arbitrarily. That universal view would have been heavily Christian. Later, a more technical spirit emerged. That encouraged the elite view that was there from the beginning to take strong hold. Hence, Harvard is of the world's upper crusts, somewhat. 
 
Edward Everett
Aside, we'll go back to Rev. John Wise to found a proper discussion, at some point. A pamphlet of his was reprinted by Patriots over 250 years ago. What does this have to do with Everett? He would have been a progeny of those of that time. Too, he lived in the era of the Civil War. 

For some Heads, WikiTree had little information which is usually the case where there are no children involved. That is not the case, now: Edward Hill Everett (Everett-650); Charlotte Gray Brooks (Brooks-2069). However, the WikiTree Profile of Brooks has no regular interest. When we talk New England, the basis, for us, is Cape Ann, or, one might say, Essex County. Brooks has many threads from that little locus. 

But, Harvard is more than involvement with the trivia of everyday life. Oh? We will discuss that notion, too, as the changes seen on the horizon now indicate that some lessons to be learned were not, both here and elsewhere. So, Harvard dropped the ball? 

One commenter expressed that Everett grew dissatisfied with the Head role fairly quickly (one alleged factor? rowdy students). His time in the office was close to three years. One achievement was getting the Lawrence gift applied. 

Remarks: Modified: 04/30/2022

04/30/2022 -- For starters, we can take a brief look at the Daughters of the American Revolution. There are three looks at different times, 1953, 2003, and 2021. Plus, the Encyclopedia's coverage considers some of the history plus the mission. D.A.R. has evolved like the rest of us. 

Sunday, April 24, 2022

Cambridge

TL;DR -- We have been looking at the History of Harvard as a way to study the history of the U.S. Several times, we have mentioned older universities. This is the first post dealing with the subject where we note that both Oxford and Cambridge have had ties from the beginning, back to Rev. John White and before. 

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One of our research thrusts has been to parallel Harvard's experiences via looking at the Heads (with Benjamin Wadsworth and Urian Oakes as our latest entries) over the centuries with that of the U.S., its colonial beginning, and post Civil War accomplishments. But, we realize that we have to consider the old country in our analysis, so we will start to look at the Universities (Oxford, Cambridge) with respect to U.S. history. 

Universitas Cantabrigiensis

For instance, "Cambridge is the UK’s leading university for graduate studies in American History" and offers regular seminars to the public on the subject. On the other hand, Oxford claims "particularly strong connections" to the U.S. We have mentioned comparing events at Harvard over the years with its peers in the old world without being specific. Now, we are looking to use both. 

For instance, Rev. John White's education is of Oxford. On looking at his extended family, there are many from Cambridge, including Ann's ancestors. John Harvard was a Cambridge man; Harvard was modeled on Cambridge. 

The alumni list of both schools include many of the U.S., including modern day scholars. Of interest is, that of the first class of Harvard (1642), the majority went back to England. One of these was George Downing the namesake of Downing Street. They went back to an England in turmoil. Nathaniel Brewster studied further at Trinity College, Dublin and served under Henry Cromwell, son of Oliver. 

As well as current-event issues, technology will be a focus. One of our tasks is to follow technology over the four centuries as it evolved here and over there with quite a bit of disparity until after the Revolution. Too, we will look at classes and trace the influence of graduates. 

Reminder: Count Rumford about whom we will have further discussion. 

In the arts, we can point to Ezra Pound who was at all three places. In academia, the first Head of Harvard, Henry Dunster, studied at Cambridge. Stepping back to a subject still pending some attention, the prior Harvard Head, Nathaniel Eaton, was a Cambridge graduate who later earned MD and PhD degrees from the University of Padua. Those are samples from the modern era and from the beginning with lots of time in-between to fill in. 

Remarks: Modified: 04/24/2022

04/24/2022 -- 

Friday, April 22, 2022

William S. Barstow

TL;DR -- As we look at how New England grew up and expanded, our focus will always contain families as well as the more abstract notions that are always involved after being conjured up by the brains. That is an universal dynamic. A look at one family and a town with their name brought up some "notables who lived there" lists that led to specific companies and activities. Of course, associations over the years accumulate to an almost endless potential for research. Filters, such as relevance, then kick in. But, for lessons to learn, an "a priori" position is almost never sufficient. 

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For now, we'll just have some pointers to material that will support further research. Essentially, while looking at the upcoming 250th, with respect to origins (say, the Society of Cincinnati), we got back to New Hampshire. So, we can tie Patriots back to Cape Ann and other sites. Per usual, families are key in their many relationships over the decades and centuries. 

One of the Founders of the Society was a Gilman which is an early family, but later than Cape Ann. However, they are mixed in everywhere. For focus, we can start with Gilmanton which is a NH burg west of Exeter (btw, the researcher is a westerner used to wide-open skies (east is east, and west is west), so directions with respect to the geographic features of New England are to be considered fuzzy). Let's use two books:

The History of Gilmanton - from 1845, this can be read for free at Google. The opening index reads like a who-is-who. Pg 20 has a list of the Proprietors with a little bit of information about each. Some families, such as Cogswell (pg 258 on), Dudley and Eastman, give a little history of their colonial experience. 

Genealogy of the Greely-Greeley Family - from 1905, gives lots of detail in 911 pages. Access to this got us information about General A. W. Greeley whose crew was left in the Artic. He was a descendant of Sarah (Gardner) Balch. The team that later rescued what was left of his crew had one ship captained by a Coffin who Richard Gardner and Sarah Shattuck. This book has more information about how Gilmanton families relate. Again, freely readable. 

Now, taking this further, we mentioned Eastman who founded Eastman Kodak, now known as Kodak. As well, there was an Eastman Chemical company. Eastman's New York connections will be of interest, as well as those in other places in the U.S. and the world. 

For instance, following links are about a company founded by New Englanders who went south to New York. On looking further, there was Essex County involvement, as well. 

Three Mile Island
plant fact sheet
 
Gilbert was an engineering company that got caught up in the Three Mile Island incident but not in a direct fashion with their product. They were a consulting architect. So, this type of situation is worth looking at further, especially since there is a New England association. 

Too, we learn from history; bringing in family information is a new aspect; how all of the types of research that used digital sources pan out is an open issue and will be for a long while. 

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After Gilbert Associates failed, many employees started new companies using the name. However, this link from a report by Oak Ridge indicates the work of the former company: Feasibility of an unattended nuclear power plant. The image is from a Fact Sheet that mentions Gilbert Associates with respect to Three Mile Island.  

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A few more links give a brief overview of the transitions of the Company. The technology connection is interesting along with the New England originators of some involved parties. However, these links are to show the inception of the last name. 

  • 1934 (NYTimes) - Barstow changes name to E. M. Gilbert Engineering Corporation. This was the manager who came in after Barstow. 
  • 1936 (Department of Labor lawsuit) - Shows both names.  
  • 1942 (Federal Register, NYTimes) - Now Gilbert Associates; notice of lawsuit (July); then, action dropped(August) due to actions by parties concerned. 

Example of several things related to technology, complexity, information and more. Views of history and family interleave. 

Remarks: Modified: 04/23/2022

04/22/2022 -- On two of the links, the paper might have seen our query as resurrecting a page that was to go stale. Or, on closer look, there may be a subscriber step involved.  So, added a reference from Oak Ridge National Laboratory with references to Gilbert Associates as well as pointed to a Fact Sheet about the facility. 

04/23/2022 -- Added notes about the Company's transitions. Next, we'll look for some specifics of the New England ties as well as notice of the GA designs for components for nuclear plants. It would be interesting to see all of the offshoots from this one business. 

Tuesday, April 19, 2022

Lexington & Concord

TL;DR -- Only three years remain before we can revisit for several years the origins of the U.S. from the early times of Cape Ann and of other sites. Looking forward to it. 

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The 250th is approaching. Today's D.A.R.'s page on FB (requires a login) pointed to this conflict (image pulled from that site). We have had several posts related to the subject but wanted to emphasize the work needed to keep up our research related to Cape Ann to Patriot. D.A.R. and the NEHGS are focusing on Passenger to Patriot and Pilgrim to Patriot, respectively. 

We also want to know of Loyalists. The Two houses post is an example of one such story. 

Remarks: Modified: 09/14/2022

09/14/2022 -- Original image went away. Using Wikipedia's. 

Monday, April 18, 2022

Urian Oakes

TL;DR -- The U.S.? Lots to say about its history and future. The latter is problematic as we do not really know the former. Turns out that Harvard's parallel existence over the long years from the colonies to today is very much of interest to a relook at the U.S. A small beginning is this pass through the Heads. 

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Our look at the Heads of Harvard (Wikipedia) has been quite cursory so far. This one was interesting due to Urian Oakes being the fourth in the role. He spent time here and abroad; his family was involved with the Ancient & Honorable Artillery company which bears a closer look. 

Initially, the interests for looking at the Heads were several, but we can start with this list: 

After completing a first pass through the list, we will tie U.S. generations back to these Heads in terms of general happenings as well as specific family involvements through the 400 years. Before 400 years, plus or minus, we will be looking at the colleges near London which are of such fame. 
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This post introduces Urian Oakes (Wikipedia). Urian and his wife were childless leaving them on the stack of forgettables that we intend to pay attention to. Hence, there is no WikiTree record for Urian. However there is one for his brother, Thomas Oakes (WikiTree) who was a Physician. 

Urian Oakes was a chaplain for the Ancient & Honorable Artillery Company of Massachusetts. His brothers, Thomas and Samuel, were members. Urian preached the election sermon in 1672. 

Penn has a collection of sermons by Urian Oakes (1631-1681).

Remarks: Modified: 04/29/2022

04/18/2022 --

Friday, April 15, 2022

The American character

TL;DR --We saw a story about the missing riverman earlier but did not look further. There was a review of a recent recap by the New Yorker writer who had interviewed Richard Perry Conant several years prior to his accident. We took the time to trace Conant's pedigree back to Roger Conant of Cape Ann and Salem of MA. This is an example of others searches that we have done and plan to put the results of this type of activity into a better framework. Why? The 400 years of the U.S. (prior to and after the events of 250 years ago) tell many tales that (ought to) have an interest for us and our future. 

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We have highlighted several individuals who were descendants of New England or Massachusetts or Cape Ann families and some of whom were descendants of Thomas Gardner. There is no special category, as of now, though there may be as we expand upon our research. 

Is there an American character? We think so. At some point, we'll start a category and discuss the unique qualities of each. Today's post looks at a recent example. 

We were reminded of Richard Perry Conant by a book review in the WSJ. The book was Riverman: An American Odyssey which can be previewed at Google and dealt with a canoeist who went missing in 2014. The journalist (Ben McGrath) who had interviewed Conant and others for an earlier book went back and completed the story. 

One of our interests, of course, was the rivers that he had traveled on in the west and in the east of the U.S. as we spent some time looking at rivers as they influenced the expansion of the American Frontier (Rivers and more). But we wanted to see if Conant was a descendant of the Cape Ann family. McGrath's books on Conant did have some information about his family and his life, but the information was sparse. Since Conant's father was Col. Perry Elmer Conant, we had a good start using military records.  

As an aside, Conant has a cousin of the same name who was from Greenfield, MA and who was born in 1949 and died in 2001. His ancestry is in the Conant book. We will look at the book, too, with respect to the canoeist's lineage. 

We found information about Col. Conant (for instance, Col. Perry Conant's findagrave) and can confirm that some see the link to Cape Ann. Findagrave mentions son John who died in 1981, so that matches. We will be looking further. Later in the post, we list Conant's ancestors back to a Profile in WikiTree. From there, we can look at the American stories. 

Here are some links with information: 

These provide lots of material about Conant and his solitary travels. We will get back to those stories. 

For now, we give a list of generations back to the WikiTree Profile. The family was in Canada, for a while, as the result of Loyalist's leanings. Col. Conant was a veteran of WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. He served in Germany. Knew Gen. Patton. 

So, this is an example how we would like to see research expand as we tell the tales covering 400 years and many generations. 

From Abel Conant, one gets back to New England via the 'Ancestors' chart. Richard Perry Conant, the canoeist, comes in as a descendant of Roger Conant via son Lot. 

Note: this is provisional until checked, again. 

Remarks: Modified: 04/12/2022

04/12/2022 --

Tuesday, April 12, 2022

Roger Conant

TL;DR -- All along, we have intended to look deeper into the Cape Ann families. First, we have to get a good list. That may take some work. So, let's dive into the families that we know of now. This post gets us to start to become familiar with Roger Conant's family and progeny. For starters, we look at known relationships with the Gardners. 

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Children of 
Roger Conant
One of our goals is to document Cape Ann families and their descendants beyond our look at the progeny of Thomas and Margaret Gardner and their collateral families. Recently, we looked at John Tilley (Tylly, Tilly) who was a co-lead with Thomas in the early party; the post was motivated by a research article published in the latest NEHGR. A little earlier, we stopped to consider the Woodbury family, again due to the NEHGR. There are several other posts that dealt with Cape Ann as it will be a common theme for us. 

The next post will consider a member of the Conant family. In the 700-page History of the Conant family, which can be viewed via archive.org (as PDF) - as we noted a while ago with respect to researching the Cape Ann Great House, there are thirty-four references to Gardner. In Dr. Frank's 1907 book, with 365 pages, there fourteen references to Conant. 

As well, Dr. Frank noted that his grandmother, Lucy Foster Wilson, was a descendant of Conant. It is time that we look at these two families and fill in the pieces based upon material collected over the past 150 years. 

As a reminder, we had an earlier page that used the Conant book (using Google's format): James Bryant Conant. The family studies seems to have covered a lot of material which is commendable. 

Joshua Conant 
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Seeth Gardner
The following images are from the Conant book which dates from 1887. We will also bring in the NEHGS Great Migration material, as we map out how the families related. 

Joshua Conant 
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Christian More
With respect to Roger (WikiTree: Conant-34) and his spouse, Sarah Horton, the first list identifies his children. Then, we see that Joshua Conant married Seeth Gardner, daughter of Thomas and Margaret. They had a son.  

Their son, Joshua (WikiTree: Conant-54), married Christian, the daughter of Richard More (WikiTree: More-108) of the Mayflower, as his first wife. Christian died young; Joshua married Sarah Newcomb.  

Just now, stopping to look at WikiTree shows that there are many descendants that have been documented for Joshua and Seeth which motivates us to take another look at Seeth and her sister Miriam. 

But, that is one purpose for having this type of focused look at the material. It can found the basis for further research; doing research can help get the material updated. Never-ending process. Technology, today, provides some interesting tools, albeit there was plenty of material available in the earlier forms. We will be looking at that on a recurrent basis, too, 

Remarks: Modified: 04/15/2022

04/12/2022 -- With respect to sourcing via the Conant book, this image shows that JB was penciled in. 

04/15/2022 -- Richard Perry Conant, the riverman, is a descendant. 

Thursday, April 7, 2022

Benjamin Wadsworth

TL;DR -- In our long look at the U.S. and before, we will use Harvard with its association with the beginnings of the country. Benjamin Wadsworth's time after the Witch ordeal and before the turmoil of the wars (French-Indian and Revolution) needs further attention. 

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Our look at the Heads of Harvard (Wikipedia) has been quite useful with only a cursory look. We will be taking this theme as a regular meme while we continue the review of the U.S. through time, including before and after the Revolution whose 250th anniversary is coming up. Initially, the interests were several, but we have started with this look: 
After completing the list, we will tie U.S. generations back to these Heads in terms of general happenings as well as specific family involvements through the 400 years. Before 400 years, plus or minus, we will be looking at the colleges near London which are of such fame. 

This post introduces Benjamin Wadsworth (1725-1737 -- see Wikipedia, WikiTree). Per usual, we did a quick genealogical check to find New England links, such as Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, but there is a lot more research that could be done (we will list the Heads for whom very little genealogical research has been done, at some point) to identify collateral families related to Wadsworth and his wife. 

His biography at Harvard's archive indicates the transitional period of the early 1700s where Wadsworth focused on College rules and curriculum. However, the times were those of loosening virtue. Too, the whole of the period after the Witch ordeal and the turmoils of the wars was very influential to the making of the U.S. spirit and needs attention with respect to current times and their troubles. 

The Harvard archive now points, via the "wayback machine", to all of the graduates of the colonial period with their class identified plus their death date.  

Remarks: Modified: 04/07/2022

04/07/2022 --

Saturday, April 2, 2022

Lorenzo and Peggy

TL;DR -- GB issues give us a chance to pull together the disparate paths of research required with what we are doing. One theme is identifying descendants. But, relating them to the time and turmoil of their lives is as important. In fact, more demanding in order to get history corrected. Take the frontier which was an experience for over a century. People out west enduring whilst the east coast basked in their civilized way. Well, not. New York and rats, say. Except, idyllic views never are other than mental states. In any case, we have been finding people who were there. An overlooked group were the circuit riders who carried the message of the Gospel out to the lonely regions. Lorenzo and Peggy are an example; he is a descendant of Miriam. On the other hand, our work has shown whole groups of people being ignored due to their having difficulties in a paper trail, many times due to decisions that might be considered suspect if looked at properly. 

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While working on Gardner's Beacon, Vol. XII, No. 1, we thought to have Women's History Month as one of the themes. We have an ongoing effort at finding descendants of Thomas and Margaret by child and have completed the 1st pass for each child. We have more information for some than for others; trying to obtain more for those with less information is a definite must. 

Aside: Our request is that those who are interested try to help us fill in the missing pieces. We suggest using WikiTree for this effort. 

One for whom there is a lack of information about descendants is Miriam. While looking at her WikiTree profile, we ran across Lorenzo Dow (WikiTree Profile) who is the 5th generation, but, having been born in 1777, he missed the Revolution (SAR/DAR). 

We have been concentrating on generational details as a means to study the History of the U.S. Along this line, we are looking particularly at how Harvard maps to  U.S. history. That focus will be explained more in the near future. But, we can categorize descendants into broad areas that have interest, such as commerce, military, academia, and more. Lorenzo was a preacher, of note. We picked him due to our year's research into the Frontier Century that occurred in the U.S. after Jefferson's deal and prior to the majority of States gaining their independence. Along that line, looking at a study of Cape Ann to Patriot (or Loyalist) has been fruitful in finding research areas of interest. 

Aside: In one case, we became familiar with a frontier church that even carries a name associated with such, Cumberland Presbyterian. What we notice is that the frontier experience is really dissed by lots of genealogists. Those who live in the central regions and are of families here a while face obstacles that are man made. We are prepared to discuss this at length. 

We have had several posts so far that related to church work. There have been quite a few Quaker posts. We also reported that a descendant of Sarah was the first Chaplain, U.S. Navy. His father had been Chaplain for the Royal Navy.  

   Lorenzo Dow    Margaret Holcomb

Lorenzo Dow, though, was of the frontier and was circuit rider for the Methodist Church. He married Margaret Holcomb whose family was out of Connecticut. She is known as Peggy Dow (WikiTree Profile) and was an author as was her husband. She and Lorenzo met at a revival. Their lives Both lived in the time of various awakenings that happened across the world which is a theme of importance to the U.S. 

Aside: We noted Holcomb earlier with respect to a railroad town in Kansas. 

The WikiTree profile for both Lorenzo and Peggy point to additional material for further reading about their lives and thoughts. They had one child who died young. That puts them on the list with Joseph and Ann (see The Downings), which is of people to not forget. So, expect more about this couple as we bring attention to scores of families who have been ignored with the east coast prejudices that are obvious. 

Aside: Mayflower? In the beginning, only used the male line. Others, about as dim. This past two years has brought the notion to our attention. For instance, some like to tout their status as a descendant of William  (the Norman). But, he had a sister who had lots of offspring. Following along those lines finds lots of example where her progeny were there with those of his, yet, there is a difference. Say, in the time of the Magna Carta signing (sealing), the main hot head is well known. Those of the sister not so much. Makes us wonder. Why? Similar experience hundreds of years later and all along the corridors of time.  

Remarks: Modified: 07/29/2022

07/29/2022 -- Lorenzo is in the same family as is Tony Lee Dow, actor.