Saturday, September 25, 2021

Oregon or bust

TL:DR -- We looked at a wreck in Oregon in 1850 of a ship owned by a Mr. Gardiner and found material about the subject, including some family information. We summarized what we knew. Now, we can know more due to research about Oregon being on the web. This includes more material about the wrecks. But, we also see the other way to arrive being documented further. The land trek of several month's duration with a daily grind across the great western landscape. 


Earlier, we wrote about a Gardiner-owned ship that wrecked on the Oregon Coast in 1850. It had left Boston in 1849 with a load for San Francisco. A post titled "The Gardiner that was" summarized what we learned on researching the owner. Given what we found, we could only classify this as a Historical puzzles which needed more research. 

Not only is there the issue of commerce and transportation, we have family stories to consider. Too, this all fits within the context of our research the past two years related to the establishment of the U.S. In particular, we have several posts related to Oregon that can be organized. 

One resource will be material related to Southern Oregon History the attention to which we got via a researcher to found our posts. Turns out that there is a lot more about the parties involved. For instance, Gardiner had a second shipwreck in the same area. If one looks at the Oregon coast, it's like graveyard: List of shipwrecks of Oregon. The two boats of interest are the Bostonian (1850) and the Nassau (1852) which are in the section on the Central Coast. 

A place for us to start is this article: Drew's side. In this, we find G. L. Snelling giving us his take on the whole deal. We will (need to) find the Henry Gardiner side of things at some point. There is a character of note who was Gardiner Chism and a nephew of Gardiner. Born in Maine, he covered a lot of area, including being in the Nevada region for awhile, before ending up in Oregon. 

So, after that cursory look at this bit of history, let's switch over to land events. This page lists people who emigrated to Oregon by trail in 1846. That was the year of the Donner party. Putting that in perspective, it was over 21 years after Missouri was getting itself carved up after its 1821 start. Too, it was a decade before people were going southwest on the Santa Fe Trail. As we see, some parties went to OR. Others split out, like the Donners, to go to CA. 

Too, we are talking the time after the early mountain men and their yearly Rendezvous. By then, we had the Trapper, Trader, and Rancher. Of course, we need to mention our first research subject, Jedediah Strong Smith who died the prior decade. 

Look at the names in this list: Emigrants to Oregon in 1846. Some of these were new to the U.S. A lot of them are east coast families. Some of these even go back to Cape Ann. That is something to pursue. 

We also will keep the foreign incursions and border conflicts in mind.  

Remarks: Modified: 09/25/2021

09/25/2021 -- 

Monday, September 20, 2021

Patriot to Passenger

TL:DR -- We have always tried to keep the spectral moments in mind, such as 100, 250, 300 and 400. Of course, what was happening in any place at those times. The 250th is coming up soon which SAR/DAR as a reminder. There is a database being worked with ties Patriots (who have been proven or not) with Passengers on the Mayflower. We have identified some of these with regard to Cape Ann but are motivated to do more. 


We just took a look at the new website for the Mayflower Society which is oriented toward the mobile, and app, configuration. Nice. From a technology sense, we will keep choices related to these matters on the table for discussion. For many reasons that a few posts here looked at, such as the theme of intelligence and artificial approximation of such.  

We ventured down the 'Join us' line of menus and got to something of interest. Several of our posts discussion the 250th coming up (DAR/SAR) and the 400th. The Revolution was borne by the fifth generation with the fourth and sixth contributing their parts. We have been supporting the work of DAR/SAR and were happy to see the Patriot to Passenger database. 


We have been tracing both Patriots and Loyalists and will continue. Lots of work to be done.

Remarks: Modified: 09/20/2021

09/20/2021 -- 

Saturday, September 18, 2021


TL:DR -- We have had an atypical year and one-half since the disease made its appearance. We were close to ground zero in the U.S. which brings up thoughts about 100 years ago and the Spanish Flu. Now, we have world-wide communication, at the blink of an eye. Yet, that power is not yet tamed. We don't know if it can be. Our work can contribute to stability, though. 


We just realized that we have not mentioned the plague that has been on everyone's mind for the past eighteen months. There were rumblings of a flu-like illness going around that started early in 2020. Later, we heard that the early warnings were in late 2019. In December of 2019, we were looking at our ten years of work and anticipating, as everyone else, the start of the Mayflower remembrances. The month before that, we had started a look at the children of Thomas and Margaret using some of the posts that we had done with them as the theme. Later, we did this again using a collection of descendants that had been first published on Wikipedia. There is a post per child with a list that can grow. Too, we were looking at the preparatory work being done by others (Salem's Start) and had figured out the issues related to Thomas' remains

We had looked further into Dr. Franks' books and into his and Lucie's (his sister's) relationship with Sidney Perley. We had gone through the eleven years of Dr. Frank's "The Massachusetts Magazine" and had published the Table of Contents for all of the issues. It had been in 2018 when we mused about the last issue of the TMM and mentioned the Spanish Flu's wide-spread influence on the U.S. We also were supporting research efforts at WikiTree. 

In short, we recognized all of the threads that were related to the necessary work and were doing an assessment of what had been done and to plan for future work. 

Then, there was the lockdown. COVID was here. Like with the Spanish Flu, Kansas had some of the early deaths from people in retirement communities being visited by some who had traveled with the few weeks before. Back in 1918, it had been in an Army post where troops were returning from overseas. This outbreak had been in the spring and long before the huge impact in Boston. So, thoughts of the prior century's ordeal was on everyone's mind. 

One problem was finding out good information. What was the reaction was that several news organizations allowed free access to their blogging about COVID. Also, in some venues, technical people were weighing in with facts and educated opinion. 

Tracking, Johns Hopkins

Too, a side-effect was that workers used internet access to work starting off a new paradigm that is still being managed for continuation. People could only go out for certain purposes, such as getting food. Food delivery became a norm. Lots of other patterns emerged. After that first lockdown, people were let out with restrictions. These were gradually relaxed but then tightened as new waves came about. We saw several of these. 

Finally, early this year, the vaccines became available. That release was done step-wise but was mostly available to all in the summer. We're only September. Most who wanted to be vaccinated in the U.S. have been. There were issues related to economic status and other factors that has delayed access to the vaccine in various parts of the world. 

Today, we were out in an open area. There were some masks which became the norm in the spring of 2020. And were dropped and picked back up. Right now, it's by choice of the person or the establishment where they might be. One sees large gatherings. Some are traveling. Some have traveled  due to necessity all of this time with some restrictions. That is, this is not normal travel. 

But, a corner seems to have been turned. Weymouth is up for its recognition in 2022. 2023 will see Gloucester doing its thing. Salem is not until 2026. But, there are many of these events that will take decades to go through. And, adding in New Hampshire will give us more to look at. 

Oh yes, the surrounding areas? Sure. That will be an update in the near future. Example: Two houses

In the last eighteen months, we followed up on the early western experience related to the trappers and mountain men (Jedediah Strong Smith). Also, we found out the significance of a recent movie (The Revenant) with respect to this theme, New England and family. Then, we broadened an earlier scope of migrating from the north by following southern routes through the Cumberland Gap. And, then, there was the attempts at settling at various sites (States) along the way to the west coast. 

For instance, Missouri became a State in 1821, two hundred years ago. St. Louis was a prime factor in the western expansion. The government's effort at surveying is an important topic as we watch the land being carved up. Even the area east of the Mississippi was not settled until after Louis and Clark's venture. As we look at the history, we will deal with families from New France and New Spain. Of that latter, the whole of the southwest from Texas to California will be on the scope. 

Technology? It played then as it does now. We looked at the various modes of travel. Before the railroad got its act together which involve lots of hard work as well as the maneuverings of people like Stanford (yes, of the University). But, people went west and back by various means. Samuel Clemens, himself before Mark Twain came aboard, went to California by stage across the northern route. Didn't like it. But, people made the trip on a regular basis, such as those who led folks to Santa Fe or Oregon through Gardner Junction, we might add. 

In our studies, we see that the Revolution (SAR/DAR) was the onus of the fifth generation. The fourth provided guidance through their experiences in the French and Indian conflicts. These, btw, had corresponding events back across the waters. So, we need to consider that whole area. It was the seventh and eighth generations who started to harvest the fruit of the U.S. Lots to discuss there. 

Remarks: Modified: 09/25/2021

09/25/2021 -- Added the TL;DR. Also, we can, and need to, research more on Oregon

Wednesday, September 15, 2021

Two houses

TL:DR -- A tale of two houses within on family and common timeframe. Too, we get to consider New Hampshire in a way that will be persistently fair and equitable with regard to its larger sibling to the south. One house is maintained by the Society of Cincinnati but built by a ggp of Ann and her kin. 


We mentioned doing research with a New Hampshire focus. It is about time, as we started to run into families who went up to NH very early when we first began to research New England. Rev. Bachiler is one example of someone with lots of families associated with him. He appears in this work but is not the focus, yet.  In a few lines from now back to the beginning, we have a collection of twelve generations and are taking a good look at generations eight and nine. The other ones are well covered. 

It is typical in this type of work to run into problem areas. For about a year, we were looking at the frontier issues related to people following the expansion west after the Revolution. In that case, the interior was carved over a century's time, with St. Louis as a focal point. There are issues that could be better handled by the experts (we'll get there - modernize the thinking, a little). With tongue in cheek, we could say that the practice for the real west was done in that pseudo-northwest that is on the wrong side of the Mississippi. 

Also, we have pointed out that the Revolution's brunt had been borne by the fifth generation with the fourth providing some guidance and the sixth hanging on for their dear lives. With the seventh, we started to see the enjoyment of the fruits of the labor of the earlier generations, in part. 

Okay, we are now putting our attention back into New England's milieu. Having mentioned the 400th parties for Massachusetts several times, we will now correct that by bringing in New Hampshire. What about ME and CT and the rest? We'll get there. Right now, we can say that lots of these families were in the Kittery, ME area prior to wandering west. 

There are many ways to go about looking at this topic. For this post, we will consider two houses. Same families. We'll list the one of glory, first; then we can balance with a look at other views. BTW, that latter? Well, with Harry being over here, we can really start to look at the commonality of ourselves and that Mother country. 

Both houses are in Exeter, NH and were built in the early 1700s.  

  • Ladd-Gilman house -- We knew of this house years ago. What got our attention recently was the association with the Society of Cincinnati. The owner of the house at the time of the Revolution was a founding member of this organization. So, we will get back to that theme, too. Right now, let's look at the families. Nathaniel Ladd, Jr. (who is the builder) is in Ann's lineage. Nathaniel had married a Gilman who was a daughter of the Hon. John of note. They, Nathaniel and Catherine, sold the house to the grandfather of the signer in the family (Nicholas Gilman, Jr). The grandfather was the 1st cousin of Catherine. The house is now used as a private museum and for meetings by the Society of Cincinnati which is one of the members of the Hereditary Society Community which is oriented toward preserving history and our knowledge about it. 
  • Gilman Garrison house - This is our balance for several reasons. It is contemporary, somewhat, as the Ladd-Gilman (1721) was built about a decade after this one (1709). However, one can see that the times and styles were somewhat different. Now, the people. Hon John Gilman was the first tenant of this house built by the family for security. A couple of generations later, Brigadier General Peter Gilman was the occupant. He was well-known for his service in the French and Indian Wars. However, come the Revolution, and he was a Loyalist. That subject needs further attention. For now we have this overview: The American Loyalists (1847). If one scrolls up a little in the file (to page 315), there is a list of the Gardner Loyalists, such as Henry and Dr. Sylvester

Remarks: Modified: 09/15/2021

09/15/2021 -- 

Sunday, September 12, 2021

Dudley family

TL;DR -- Lots and lots of families in New England have published a book starting about 150 years ago and continuing to now. Many times, areas will include family genealogy of their citizens. Part of our work has been identifying this type of work which has a Gardner theme. Turns out that the Dudley families also can be used in this regard. 


We were doing research about families in New Hampshire and noticed that Dudley kept coming up as families in the areas intermarried. Before the 300th of New England (Great Migration) came around, families were doing research and writing books. This has continued over the past century. 

Somewhat, all of this activity has resulted in material that is mostly conversational. Some say, well, quote sources. But, that is not enough for several reasons. We need more than books. Fortunately, the web will help as we go forward. 

One of our tasks early was trying to collect all that had been written about Thomas and Margaret (Fryer) Gardner, in particular, and about Gardner in general. Some of those early sites seem to have disappeared where we might use the 'wayback' facility for access. Then, for those still around, who do you believe? We made a choice to support the WikiTree effort due to their principles. 

One might think that Gardner represented a mess given all of the families with the names, some of which may very well be related. In any case, we want to address collateral families. So, we would find 1000s of names anyway given the time frame of 400 years and more. Dr. Frank's book is small in comparison to some of the things that we see. 

So, back to New Hampshire. It turned out that using three family books, things were consistent. That is, each had their own thread and views. But, converging to some point in time and family was there, albeit the information differed slightly due to viewpoint. But, one of those three books was related to Dudley. And, turns out that it covers more than the family of Thomas. However, he was the one of interest given our focus on Massachusetts and its surrounds. 

So, the thought arises that the Dudleys started researching early. Or, they had better family records. But, not. Too, they do have the public interest and so can be a focus for discussion. As in, compare things back to what the Dudleys did or wrote. Too, their effort can be motivation to keep us working toward a better framework for presentation of Gardner information. 

Here are a few thoughts on the matter. 

  • Joseph Gardner and Ann Downing are mentioned. Why? Gov. Simon Bradstreet married Ann after Joseph was killed and Simon's wife, Ann the poet, had died. Okay, that's a connection that is early. However, on browsing around, there are other references to families that are only a degree or two (the Kevin Bacon deal) away. 
  • WikiTree. 
    • Of course, there is a profile for Thomas Dudley. Too, notice that there are the G2G discussions
    • History of the Dudley Family. This was published in series. WikiTree provides them all. That is, those before a certain date. A Google search on these of a later vintage comes up with books, most of which support neither preview'ing nor snippet'ing. 
  • Thomas in particular. The Royal Families book gives his descendants including those of other families. A few years ago, there was a file that listed the names (part of the index) so that one could check without seeing the text. Doesn't seem to be there (let us know if it is). 
  • Example of a town book, Canterbury NH
  • Wait, a book with little Dudley mention: Connecticut River ... 
  • Dudley DNA. This is good to see. 
  • ...
Early on, we noticed that the 'rich and famous' had more genealogical/historical stuff published about them, albeit how did one know how good the stuff was? Serious question. Too, if one looked at the general stuff, one could get some hints about others who might have been in some area at some point in time, even if they were not mentioned. Hints, folks, are what good problem solving needs and develops as part of any effective process. 

So, Dudley? Probably about the best example though we have seen many others. We will bet that the Dudleys have a motive to make it right. So, they will be part of the action. Lots to talk about with regard to filtering and such. 

Remarks: Modified: 09/15/2021

09/15/2021 -- We need to look at New Hampshire on a regular basis.  

Saturday, September 4, 2021

Joseph and Seeth

TL;DR -- As we fill in descendant trees for all of the families that interlocked in the early times via marriage, we want to remember those who had no progeny. Joseph and Ann (Downing) Gardner are an example. He was killed in the early troubles with the American Indians. She married an old governor after that while getting Bradstreet to sign a pre-nup. Joseph's sister, Seeth, had children and grandchildren. One Conant line ended early. There are many more to add to the list as we find them and remember to do the recording.  


Of late, we have been looking at the wide expanse of people related to Thomas and Margaret. For a time, we were looking at the interior which was carved up under the guise of Manifest Destiny. Before that, and now in a more balanced mode, we had the nautical focus. After all, Salem was a port. 

Many heritage society communities focus on descendants. How else can they keep their membership? But, we have kept an interest in those who had no progeny. While reviewing the portal today which pops up some random text, we got this page. The text showed two of the children: Joseph and Seeth. 

Joseph Gardner and Ann Downing did not have children. Seeth? She did with her later husband. Her son, Joshua Conant, who married a daughter of Richard More, did not have grandchildren. That got us to a recent post of someone with no progeny: JB Conant

We get sensitive to this while looking at pedigrees related to application to heritage societies. Of the children in a family, many times only a few are in the database due to no application being submitted for the others. To us, that would be something that the heritage society ought to look at. Why? Many claim biblical leanings. If so, transitive 'honoring of the parents' might suggest that. In any case, we intend to keep with the focus on those who are lost in history. 

BTW, in our look at the frontier, we see many who are lost just due to genealogists being obtuse in so many ways. We are ready to discuss those issues, as required.  

Remarks: Modified: 09/03/2021

09/03/2021 -- 

Monday, August 30, 2021

Titian exhibit

TL;DR -- The Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum pulled together an exhibit of paintings by Titian which were a few months late due to delays related to Covid and weather. Isabella Stewart married John Lowell Gardner III of Boston. She created the Museum to display their collection. 


An exhibit of Titian paintings at the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum that is getting notice offered a good time to pull together what information that we have. First, here are some of the stories of late about the effort that went into getting the exhibit planned and accomplished in the age of Covid. 

The Museum was named for Isabella Stewart (Stewart-30604) who married John Lowell Gardner II (Gardner-12162). Our first post on the couple was titled Isabella from 2011. John Lowell Gardner II was a descendant of Thomas and Margaret through their son, George. A post in 2016 showed one Salem connection of the family (Gardner-Wyman-Peabody Mill). 

A biography of Isabella was published in 2003. The Museum endured a theft 1990 that is still an unsolved mystery. 

Remarks: Modified: 08/30/2021

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