- Miriam (Gardner) Hill (ca ) --
- Susannah (Gardner) Dow (ca) --
- Rowland Hussey Macy (ca 1820s) -- founder of Macy's
|Rowland Hussey Macy|
|Rowland Hussey Macy|
|John Albion Andrew|
As we work to fill in family information from Thomas and Margaret until around 1900, we will be using WikiTree to map out genealogical relationships with supporting material coming from various web sources that can be trusted. That will be a many-pronged task, as we need to have some guidelines to follow which will differ by context. For now, as an example of the good work of DAR, we can point to some public information that would be pertinent, such as their guidelines, their effort at having a database, and such. A good place to start would be this document (DAR Genealogy Guidelines, Part Two) starting at Page 24 where there is a discussion of forms of documentation. Then, we have the job of looking at all the persons of every generation.
Let's take an example. On WikiTree's Profile for Samuel Gardner, earlier this week, we saw that Neville Chamberlain was a descendant of Thomas and Margaret. Now, earlier items on the list in this post (Descendants of Samuel) had been looked at years ago (we're finally getting to this work). However, this new one looked interesting and was added to the list without any attribution. That is how work happens, in an incremental fashion, hopefully with notes to do traces and such. We didn't bother as we knew that this post was coming along. As well, we added the name since the list is smaller than for Samuel's siblings. But, we're of Samuel and thought that we would do the others first. Only two more to go (Miriam and Seeth) before getting into details. Which this post is about.
Well, after a quick look in order to prove that line from Thomas to Neville, we could not. BTW, Neville was the Prime Minster of England prior to Winston Churchill. Not too fantastic, as we can show several modern lines in England that map back to colonial families. We'll have a post on that later.
Fortunately, we do have Dr. Frank's works. So, we started down through Samuel's (which goes #6 to #59 to ...). And, we saw Elizabeth (Gardner) Gardner. She is of George, and her husband was of Samuel (both generation 2). That post on her was done in December 2019. One of her sons was mentioned by Rev. Bentley. But, let's take it a little forward. Her daughter married a Barton. Then, their daughter married a Derby who was a Crowninshield, too. His mother was an Elizabeth, too (look at December 2019 and see a few Elizabeths in focus - but, early this year, remember, the virus happened - besides, we got off on this work of supporting DAR which took a lot of time and energy - from which we learned a few things about how to argue on these issues - which we first brought up in the context of the Hereditary Society Community - so, lots of pending things to do).
So, we get to a great-grandson of Elizabeth (through her daughter, Margaret, and granddaughter, Sally). His name is Richard Crowninshield Derby who died young at Antietam. Here is his findagrave profile. And, this is a snap of his WikiTree profile.5th generation bearing the brunt of the Revolution (DAR's focus). As an aside, doing the DAR work, we were heavy into the movements south and west where documentation lagged the people's lives. Lots and lots of times. We'll go on about this until we see better handling. That is, the wilderness of those areas just west of the coast had a whole different dynamic than the frontier (of several sorts) experience which went on for decades (and decades). Yes, that'll be our little focus (people's essence is not necessitated on their having papers - sheesh).
Now, in this case, given that Dr. Frank was of Samuel, we can somewhat take his work as given. Except not, we're on the record as noting that we need to verify Dr. Frank's work. I have already done this with his direct line and that of his mother (1907 Chart, from May of 2018 - we might be slow, but we are thorough - hence, in a few months, we did (as in, got okayed) a handful of new applications plus ten supplementals - there will be more on this later).
As said, we'll use WikiTree until we find a better approach. One truth of the matter? This stuff takes work which we have been doing for a decade now. To date, the thrust has been the overview and discovering what has been done for a century and one half. We are in the process of closing up that work and starting to get into more detail in a mode that will be sustainable (as much as we see with DAR and their 125 years or the NEHGS with their 175). Does ten years make us newbies? Not really, as research has been my career focus, so we're talking 1/2 a century (John's gift to the Gardners).
BTW, John has been digging into the theory of computing (and other things considered theoretical) and will be doing little experiments using our portal. Anyone interested in technology who can adopt and keep independent viewpoints is welcomed to help. Or, just doing drudge work. Computing has that at its core (nothing sexy at all - that's all hype).
Going back to Richard, he was born in MA in 1834. That 30 years after Lewis and Clark and a few years post Daniel Boone getting to eastern MO. Then, Richard was out in WI and MN. So, that's above IL and MO. You see the timing. At the same time, though, we saw the frontier line going west (KS, NE, OK, and TX - can't forget the upper people, DKs).
In our little case against the GSMD, Chloe is of the latter part of this generation.
Talk of serendipity. Rather, it's just paying attention. We have been too busy of late to do proper research but are now back in action. One of our goals is to fill in the generations post Thomas and Margaret up to about 1900. It was the 5th generation that bore the brunt of the Revolution with guidance from the 4th gen, if you would. Then, two generations this way is when we saw the blooming of the area (Salem and Boston) with international trade really taking off.
At the same time, we saw western movement as the middle of the country filled in. Of late, we have looked at plenty of families scattered all over the landscape. And, looking closely resulted in a more full view of the issues of being on the frontier. One huge group sort of points to a little movement, say from North Carolina to Tennessee, as sufficient to cover the rest. That is not so, as we will bring forth. Things were much more shaky the further west one went. Boone, himself, got to the eastern side of Missouri. That was near the Mississippi River. It's a long way from there to Oregon, though there are tales of the old guy going out to the Yellowstone area and back (we'll look at that more closely).
But, we digress. Earlier, we put a descendant's list out which had not been verified (almost a decade ago). It was suggestive of research to be done, say. So, we're starting from that point where we split the list by child. The last one was Samuel (child #6). Today, Miriam came up. She married John Hill. One of their daughters married a Dow.
So, we remembered that we have referred to a Dow several times, namely George Francis Dow. This was in the context of the Great House (Cape Ann). There are several posts of early dwellings (The 1st year) which precipitated the Wikipedia article. After finding the obituary on George Francis Dow (at the site of the American Antiquarian Society), we found his parents (and will look further). But, his wife was Alice G. Waters who did a bibliography for The Diary of William Bentley (mentioned here, a few times: example).
So, seeing Waters got the notion of how this all relates to Thomas Franklin Waters (writer on Ipswich among other topics). As well, TF Waters was an editor of The Massachusetts Magazine spearheaded by Dr. Frank. So, there are things to pursue in the vein.
Now, back to the gist of the post. We found this post on GF Dow in the Streets of Salem (Donna Seger's) blog. It has better pictures than I have seen before. Note, the Wikipedia article was started in 2012. As well, the post has pointers to further information.
|Crafting a Colonial Salem|
Streets of Salem
Higginson saw the house and wrote of it. So did Anne Bradstreet. Endicott played host to Winthrop as that late arriving group stopped by Salem long enough to express displeasure with the little area. Anne Bradstreet wrote of her shock about the situation. Back in jolly old England, they were told of good houses, paved streets (of gold), and such (tongue-in-cheek).
Oh yes, Thomas' or Margaret's house? Or Conant's? It was put up by the original crew from material brought over. They didn't have time (or the tools) to do all of the fabrication work. There was one remark that we saw about the material (for the house) having be prepared for transport. When Conant went over to Massey's Cove, the Gardners had Cape Ann to themselves? When Winthrop enjoyed his feast, his crew had gone over to Cape Ann to pick strawberries. Many tales to consider.
You know, all of the western movements (there were several, and we have the families and their histories to study) faced something similar. And, it was more than just the sod houses of the prairie.
An aside: many genealogists have no clue, it appears to me, that their paper chase bears little on the reality (essence) of people's lives. How can we correct that lack of insight?
We have mentioned that we look to the NEHGS as a 'mentor' from afar. That is, we pay attention to what they do. For one thing, their NEHGR is still around; Dr. Frank's TMM ran into the events (pandemic) of 1918. Too, the NEHGS did well getting the various parties to coordinate with respect to the Mayflower lookback. The conditions of Covid-19 got in the way of the partying, but the acknowledgement has taken place. Lots of good information was brought out that will facilitate further work.
In addition, we have looked at the methods used to establish membership criteria for various groups, such as the GSMD. Their efforts at proving lineage is captured in a set of books that cover five generations. In the past, one found these in libraries. Now, the NEHGS provides on-line access through their American Ancestor database. Another research group of note is the LDS (Family Search). There are many others, but the list is too long for this post.
Before getting to the specifics (this and the next post), we need to mention the Hereditary Society Community. The HSC consists of societies whose purpose is honoring heritage and, for one thing, the culture of the U.S.A. HSC society members gather each spring, in Washington DC, for their annual meeting. An example member would be Mrs. Philip Wendall Bernstoff (Betty Jane James) who was in the same DAR Chapter as Ann.
Ann has just completed a series of tenures as Historian, Librarian, Treasurer and Registrar for a local DAR Chapter. For several months this year, Ann did the work of both Treasurer and Registrar. Now that this work is winding down, we will have more time for the Thomas Gardner Society, Inc.'s work which would include documenting descendants of Thomas. So far, we have been posting a list of names that came from the Wikipedia collection. The latest post was "Descendants of Samuel". But we want to expand upon the work of Dr. Frank as well as get several generations filled in.
Part of the work this year as Registrar included working on over twenty applications in the NSDAR context, completing most of them, and concluding with acceptance via the review process. Some of the applications were for new members. The majority were what are called supplemental applications that are done by after membership is attained. That is, one uses a Patriot to join. Then, other Patriots in one's tree can be identified and proven. For an effort related to process improvement, Ann worked on almost twenty supplemental applications with eleven of these being completed for a review process. Ten have already been verified and are in the final stages.
That depicts work effectivity. As well, we have completed over thirty applications in other contexts for various individuals. Too, we have done preliminary work for a score of others. Given the experience, we are ready to set up some conditions for applying to the Thomas Gardner Society, Inc. Stayed tuned.
With regard to approaches, we have had discussions on this topic where technology is brought into play. Many efforts seen on the public approaches (Ancestry, ...) follow less rigor than one would like to see. As we mentioned earlier, we took the notes that Dr. Frank wrote up about his mother's genealogy and compared it with what had been done on WikiTree (WT). WT is where the Great Migration Project (NEHGS) has been working. For instance, the Thomas Gardner profile there is owned by the GMP. There are lots of missing pieces, including descendants. Samuel's line is fairly sparse.
Where does one go to find good information. Take DAR, for instance, which supports genealogy studies with their database which is public (Genealogical Research). One limit is that the DAR database is based upon applications. With respect to the supplemental effort, this will fill in lines over time. In fact, it is quite possible now for one to build an application without needing any additional sources since one just matches up existing trees.
On WT, there has been an effort to identify those involved with the American Revolution (example: Joseph Swazey 1750 - 1816). But, getting beyond New England, there are studies with respect to other interests, such as Magna Carta. As technology improves, we would expect to find better and better representations that can be trusted. That is one goal of the TGS, foster this work and the related discussions. It's one of our many goals.
And, given that we're back to work, we'll be more regular: Gardner's Beacon, Vol X, No 1, soon.
|Descendant of George and Samuel|
People joke of the 'wall' they found. It's been our experience that most of these examples are from a side branch which represents a collateral family. Or, it might be so far back as to be mostly nuisance, like preventing one to join some mutual-admiration society. The ones that we say need better handling are those of the main line. The fact of an extant person (this case, Chloe (Porter) Jackson) suggests some type of lineage is there from which the person got their mojo.
Recap: Chloe's great-grandfather (Noah Porter) is in the Alden Silver Book. Her sister has descendants in the MF society. One of her Porter uncle's has descendants in the MF society. The details being expanded upon here were covered in a similar analysis that was published in The Gardner Annals (Vol III, No 1, Winter 2016) titled "Flyover country".
This images points to some of the documents that will be covered in the next paragraph. Are we dealing with a mere transformation of style? Not really, as we will show little snips from the documents, themselves. Some groups like a story with snippets related with some text. The Mayflower person's response? I know how to read these documents. Okay? What was the hangup (is my response)?
These bullets will be filled in during this exercise
... this will be fun ...
Goal: Turn "this will be fun" into "that was fun".