Saturday, June 29, 2019

Back to DNA

The last post looked at the issue of two Thomases in Salem. We have two views on this that we will look at further in order to do a comparison. One was from Dr. Frank. As with everything, we have been following his lead as we got our bearings in order. Today, we looked at both of the books (1907 and 1933). His reference to Troup is the same. They had a correspondence, but there seemed to be no update. Part of this effort will be to go back and compare note to note (even between the two books - as we did with the person list).

So, Frances Rose-Troup provided us with her research results. She was working on the other side of the pond from Dr. Frank. She shows that the Thomas Gardner married to Elizabeth White did not have a son named Thomas. He had a Josiah to whom he left property. So, we went to WikiTree and searched on Josiah Gardner (here he is on WikiTree). Well, there is a lot of work to be done with that tree, however his father is noted as a brother of the father of Lionel (Gardiners Island). Too, the profile manager provides his DNA results. Plus, he has lineage documentation.

Earlier, we dabbled a little with DNA and genealogy. The image is from a study as Family Tree. At the time, I got more interested in the technology issues, such as Admissibility, with the thought of getting back to the subject. Now is the time, it seems.

One truism is that DNA does not remove the need for lineage studies and documentation searches. The NEHGS has been publishing interesting studies where they have used DNA to resolve puzzles. We all know the author whose whole lineage was proven to be not true. His book dealt with how he recovered his heritage or the sense of knowing who he was. One might say, scrambling.

There are other sites dealing with DNA, so we'll start to look at those. Too, on WikiTree, there is a One Name Study for Gardner (and variants on the name). I have already added to the list of places with Gardner as name.

We had already widened the scope with the "All things Gardner" perspective (discussed in this post: Renovation, plus). So, the idea will be to be more fully extensive in coverage.

There is plenty to do.

Remarks: Modified: 06/04/2020

06/04/2020 -- "Back to DNA II" looks at a WikiTree Project and more.


  1. Hi John, this is a bit delayed response but you may remember that you commented on a page I had posted on WikiTree about Gardners in Early New England which was a "reprint" of Dr. Frank Gardner's book intro. I've added another page about Gardner DNA which summarizes data from FamilyTreeDNA Gardner Surname Project. The page focuses on R-M269 but includes all haplogroups in the dendogram graphs.

  2. Was cleaning up, after a little time away, and went too far in removing spam. So, this pointer goes to the response to Bob Gardner's comment: