Wednesday, November 18, 2015

Gardner's Beacon, Vol. V, No. 2

While researching, today, I ran across a site devoted to Winston Churchill. A lot of the interest has been placed upon his American side which was through his mother, Jennie Jerome of Brooklyn.

Winston's grandson, Winston S. (1940-2010) wrote of his genealogical interest being piqued (Churchill's American Heritage) while working on his volume, The Great Republic (1977).

The article is not dated, but Winston S. does write of using ancestry.com, so it is fairly recent. A later article examines some of the claims that had been made about the Churchill American ancestry (Mayflower Ancestry: The Case For and Against).

Several things stand out. One is that interest generates research. Then, results need to be studied with publication following. The web has evolved into a nice place to do this, as we see with the website for the Churchill Centre. And, the family needs to be involved.

The Thomas Gardner Society, Inc. offers that involvement and a commitment for sustaining the effort into the future.

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The current issue of Gardner's Beacon at the research interest and accomplishments for 2015. We provided material about Dr. Frank's paternal heritage: Benjamin Brown Gardner and Lucy Wilson Foster. Too, we are collecting information related to earlier work, pertaining to Gardner origins and relationships, which has spanned many decades.

One descendant has proposed a nice conjecture about the Cape Ann experience which will be written in a post soon (link).

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See Vol. V, No. 2 of Gardner's Beacon for a review of research to date.

Remarks: Modified: 03/15/2019

03/15/2019 -- Added image to the index on our portal to truth.

Tuesday, November 10, 2015

Wives and children of George

As in, George, son of Thomas, and father of Ruth who was wife of John Hawthorne and ancestor of Nathaniel, the author.


I pulled this image from the TAG (30, McCracken) article referenced by Anderson in his Great Migration write up about George. In that same TAG article, there was discussion of the wives of Thomas and the Shattuck family.

... more coming ...

Remarks:  Modified: 11/10/2015

11/10/2015 -- 

Friday, October 23, 2015

Wikipedia

This is one of several projects (also, Sherborne, Dorset) about which we will have a regular status update.

About a year ago, an issue tag (multiple) was put on the Thomas Gardner (planter) page on Wikipedia. See the Talk page for some discussion of this and for subsequent changes. The image shows the current state of the page.



There will be more editing. For one thing, the text is based upon Dr. Frank's view. Since his time, there has been a lot of research some of which has been covered by this blog. So, another section will be added to bring in the other viewpoints.

Remember, all things need (ought) to be sourced with good citations.

Too, we will be going to other informational sites, such as Quora (related post).

Remarks:  Modified: 10/23/2015

10/23/2015 -- See Talk page on clarification of unreliable references. Wiki doesn't like Higginson published works (which includes Dr Frank's books), family-oriented sites, blogspot, ... So, there is some work to do to find replacements. A lot of Dr Frank's stuff was quoted in Sydney's History of Salem. So, that will work. The others will take a little more effort. C'est la vie.  

Tuesday, September 22, 2015

Miscellaneous status

Last year, about this time, we had a diversion to Charles Olson. He was the Gloucester poet. Also, in that same post, we mentioned paleoichnology. These themes concern relating to prior times.

Of late, I ran across Alberto Rios. One (The Who That I Am) of his poems struck several chords. I have attached an image, from Mesa Arts Center.


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For a couple of months, I have used Quora. It has a question/answer format (see examples). I need to collect those answers related to New England history and other TGS interests. Several times, I have seen answers that were lifted from elsewhere on the web, with no attribution. That type of copying seems to be taken as okay, as if plagiarism is the norm and acceptable.

Yet, one has to think that some type of structure could be built there. Wikipedia has a policy of no original research. Quora does not have that NOR restriction. They do have the neutral tone policy which is not hard to adopt.

Remarks:  Modified: 09/23/2015

09/22/2015 --

Thursday, September 3, 2015

Unique ancestors

As we dig for ancestors, we can think about lots of things, of which numbers (example) is one. How many ancestors do we have and how many can we identify?

We know that intermarriage between families reduces the number since an ancestor will appear in more than one part of the tree. So, how common is that situation? Using Dr. Frank, in one of his ahnentafels, there is no duplication until the immigration time.

These types  of question has been posed many times. And, they have been looked at in various ways. Of interest is a 1978 paper by Kenneth Wachter, titled "Ancestors at the Norman Conquest." This paper has been referenced in a lot of subsequent work. Too, we find statisticians and others weighing in.

I ran across this question on Quora: For most of us, how far back in time do we have to go before we no longer have unique ancestors in every generation? There are several answers. One was given by David Joyce who does genealogy well. I have run across his work several times and considers those who have colonial ancestors.

There was a book in 2002 by Steve Olson, titled "Mapping Human History" (USA Today story) in which he discusses a common ancestor for all of us. We have all heard of Lucy. But, is there one closer in time? Olson claims that around 1,200 years back we could find an ancestor who appears multiple times (as in, 1000s of times) in our tree.

Using the generational count, we could figure that there are a trillion people on the tree. At at time, there were 200 million on Earth. So, we know that each person, if they had children, would appear multiple times. But, many did not have children. Too, many had lines that died out long before we got to the present.

There are many more studies that we could discuss. But, in terms of Thomas, we do not know his ancestors, yet. Our goal is to find out who they are.

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We are looking to build some knowledge about Thomas using Quora. But, more, we hope to fill in information through this type of crowd sourcing.

Remarks:  Modified: 03/14/2019

09/03/2015 -- David Joyce's site.

09/22/2015 -- A related question: Is-there-anyone-for-whom-all-1-024-of-his-her-10th-generation-ancestors-are-traceable-all-of-them-separate-individuals

03/14/2019 -- Added image so that we can index at our portal to truth.

Monday, August 17, 2015

Where isThomas? III

Context is:
Where was he and is he?
    -- Where is Thomas?: Initial question with material from Dr. Frank and from Harmony Grove Cemetery. The brochure of the HGC mentions the land modifications caused by the road work and gives some indication of who was moved (put image from their brochure).
    -- Where is Thomas? II: Follow-on post with a Bing map of the area. In there, where?
    -- Where was he and is he?: Finally, I used a Perley (did good work, knew Dr. Frank) map along side Google (properly aligned). Partly, it was to show that these sketches were done well given that people were not yet able to have a neighborhood view. Aside: John Gardner's work with the Merrimack mapping crew still stands.      
Saturday, last, someone, on Wikipedia (see Status of page), changed the Burial section on the Thomas Gardner page as follows ("Before edit" was the original status; "Change" was the modification that had no source added; "Correction" is the current state until edited):
    Before edit: Thomas was buried on Gardner Hill near present-day Boston Street and Grove in Salem. His daughter Seeth and his grandson Abel are also buried there.[16] Abel's wife, Sarah Porter Gardner, whose mother was the sister of John Hathorne, was buried with her husband. The remains of Thomas and many others were moved from the old burial ground to Harmony Grove Cemetery in the 1840s. 

    Change (in italics): Thomas was buried on Gardner Hill aka Gardner Burying Ground near present-day Boston Street and Grove in Salem. His daughter Seeth and his grandson Abel are also buried there.[16] Abel's wife, Sarah Porter Gardner, whose mother was the sister of John Hathorne, was buried with her husband. A 1692 map of the area shows that the Gardner Burying Ground was in the same location as present day Harmony Grove Cemetery, which was incorporated in the 1840s.

    Correction: Thomas was buried on Gardner Hill aka Gardner Burying Ground near present-day Boston Street and Grove in Salem. His daughter Seeth and his grandson Abel are also buried there.[16] Abel's wife, Sarah Porter Gardner, whose mother was the sister of John Hathorne, was buried with her husband. The remains of Thomas and many others were moved from the old burial ground to Harmony Grove Cemetery in the 1840s.[55] A 1692 map of the area shows that the Gardner Burying Ground was in close proximity to Harmony Grove which was incorporated in the 1840s.   
One of my remarks to the "Change" was that "same" is not congruent. Of course, we are talking the same area. The bodies were not moved very far (we can have a contest to determine the actual distance).

Let's get serious. As well, this change had no supporting material. That is a no-no on Wiki. See status of the Thomas Gardner page. Someone put tags (ignore unless you want to help). After that, I did some changes (such as not reference pages done by families, etc.). Also, some "politically incorrect" sections (I know, I was spouting off as a newbie) were removed. The page now is good. I'm waiting for someone else to remove the tags.

To us, this burial issue is open and needs to be resolved before the 400th, if not sooner.

Remarks:  Modified: 05/16/2019

08/17/2015 -- We will put an image of the HGC brochure on the blog.

08/12/2018 -- Thomas, with others on Gardner Hill, was left where he was. Stones were moved over to Harmony Grove Cemetery. A few of those withstood the move, say that for Seeth. Most did not and are piled somewhere. At the burial site, though, the road was cut through. So, the remains? Well, moved to God only knows. Or, if the burial was away from the road, it is beneath some structure. Lots to think about. Reflect on. How to proceed into this mire?

11/13/2018 -- With a new twist, as bodies and stones were also moved to the Trask site. Add in Sidney Perley's map of Gardner Hill.

01/04/2019 -- This topic will be followed more regularly this year (344th of 29 December 1674). We will initiate a discussion on WikiTree (see link in sidebar) in support of the research.

02/28/2019 -- Gardner's Beacon, Vol. IX, No. 1 gives an overview of what we know after looking at the issue of missing graves. Then, there are more missing graves, we see.

05/16/2019 -- The map that compares Sidney's walk-about with Google is way off. That is because I was looking at landmarks and not paying attention to details, like distance. So, see this update: How close is close ? II. Here is the updated graphics.
Oh yes, we are now honing into the area. 

Saturday, August 15, 2015

Cape Ann settlers

We know that Thomas came over with a group that was trying to establish commercial activities in New England, at Cape Ann, in the sense of being able to send product back across the waters. The Zouch Phoenix list suggests who was there. However, there were other participants. Crews had been visiting the area for a while; among these would have been fishing interests from the other Cape.

One person was Woodbury (namely, John). See Nutfield's post about meetings of John's descendants. John had a brother, William, who came over, too.

Anyone with an extended tree with Essex County, MA ancestors may find some one who was at Cape Ann. Some of these are listed as Old Planters (Conant, Balch, Woodbury, Palfrey and, sometimes, Trask). Others stayed around, too, such as Allen, Norman, and Gardner. Too, we cannot forget Tylly.

400th, again
Aside: Dr. Frank tried to expand upon the "Old Planters" with an illustrious group of collaborators, but he didn't get far. We need to recognize the Balchs and Woodburys and others for meeting together all of these years on a regular basis.

Now, our intent is to gather information about the Cape Ann families and present this in a coherent manner. The interest in these things will grow as we go toward the 400ths (BTW, early 400th, 1941, Quivira, in Kansas).

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So, we will find descendants, hopefully, of all of the Cape Ann group. As an example, in one tree, I found these Woodbury lineages which shows how families can relate and interrelate.
    John --> Lydia (Woodbury) Herrick
    John --> Peter --> Priscilla (Woodbury) Ober
    John --> Humphrey --> Isaac --> Robert --> Thomas --> Ruth (Woodbury) Ober
    William --> Hannah (Woodbury) Haskell
    William --> Nicholas --> Abigail (Woodbury) Ober
    William --> Nicholas --> Joseph --> Hannah (Woodbury) Masters
Those strings terminate at a daughter (I'll do another view later to show the wives at each generation) and can be brought forward.

Remarks:  Modified: 03/14/2019

03/14/2019 -- Another look: Cape Ann Retrospective. Added this to the image index on our portal to truth