Nathaniel Knapp

We want to continue with Dr. Frank's line so that we can show a filled in tree with collateral families handled as we would like to see. Earlier, we looked at his mother, Marion Wallace Woods. A related line of research is looking at Dr. Frank's two wives.

Nathaniel's daughter, Rebecca, married Simon Stacy Gardner and was an ancestor of Dr. Frank. Also, Nathaniel Knapp was a descendant of Nathaniel Eaton, first head of Harvard. Nathaniel Eaton will be the subject of a lot more study, and discussion.

In his monographs on the Siege of Boston, Dr. Frank mentioned that the officers of the Revolution got their experience fighting for the King in the French-Indian War. One battle was the Siege of Louisbourg that occurred in present day Cape Breton Islands.

Nathaniel Knapp was of Newbury and served in that battle. His diary from the time was published later. It starts on March 27, 1758. It would be interesting to match these entries with other sources. For instance, in late September and early October, as we are now, he mentions Admirals Boscawen, Wolfe, and Hardy.

The Diary goes until July 14th of the next year. On the 13th, he was on his way from Boston where they arrived on the 12th to Newbury and stopped to spend the night with his uncle, John Knapp. They got to Newbury on the 14th and had roast lamb.

Need to go back through this and do a little indexing. He mentions the Isle of Shoals and other landmarks. Some of the activities could bear a closer look.

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The above mentions that Nathaniel spent the night with his uncle, John, so I went looking for that person. That brought up an issue.

Turns out that there is some research to do with this family. With regard to the Eaton pedigree, there was a child named Benoni Eaton Knapp, baptized in 1744, so that is a very early reference to Nathaniel Eaton who was Benoni's father. As well, the mention of Nathaniel Eaton in this book points to Anna Eaton as daughter of Benoni.

But, there are two views to look at further.

• 1896 Book, Ould Newbury: Historical and Biographical Sketches by John James Currier -- this source says that the son of Nathaniel who was Nathaniel, too, was at Louisbourg. 
• 1909 Book, Knapp Family in America by Arthur Mason Knapp -- Nathaniel Knapp on page 13. Has a son Nathaniel (see page 20). The Knapp book says that the elder Nathaniel was at Louisbourg. The elder Nathaniel had a brother, John. But, the elder Nathaniel also had an uncle, John, son of Isaac (page 9). 

I looked, WikiTree doesn't have this information. So, we'll look further. Unfortunately, Dr. Frank does not have much information about this family. Methinks that he didn't want to open the door to Nathaniel Eaton (who was the laughing stock of Harvard and others - at the time - we'll get back to that).

Remarks: Modified: 10/10/2021

10/10/2021 -- The Count features in our history of Harvard (a special project dedicated to Nathaniel Eaton). 

Gallows and more

There's a lot that we can learn about Salem, yet. Recently, we had a day pass on which, in 1692, several persons were 'hung' by the  neck. Now, why is this of interest to us? Several reasons. This happened in the town of Thomas and friends. So, there is a lot of stuff to look at that can be personal and not.

In terms of the personal, Dr. Frank had two ancestors in that group. We looked at that with our study of his paternal grandmother, Lucy Foster Wilson. Also, Sidney Perley, friend of the family, figured out where the hanging site was. Sidney is now be documented on WikiTree; there is a photo of him at the hanging site. Of late, academic researchers confirmed his findings. So, Sidney, in his walkabouts, was quite astute in getting the facts straight.

The New England Historical Society posted an update, on FB, on their story about the places: Six Places Where A Gallows Once Stood. Of course, one of these was the Salem point of departure.

We looked at the closure of Charter Street Cemetery this year during the Halloween period. That is right next to the memorial for those executed during the Witch Trials in the Salem area.

Next year, we want to remember September 22. There are other dates to add to the list, too, such as December 29. We can add these to the scrolling text of our portal to truth. Many families lived in houses on Gallows Hill. The history of that area can be studied.

Remarks: Modified: 09/30/2019

09/26/2019 --

New infrastructure

TL;DR -- A look at what we need to do and the various contexts involved including our content which covers several domains and our need for configuration management. The web's evolution will be on the table in terms of choices, both good and bad, by the developers of the mess. Updated graphic and comment about WordPress are later edits. This was a pre-COVID post. 

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We have all heard this over the past couple of decades. Well, we can finally say that things are at a crux, especially with the emergence of DL's facilities. They were always there; of late, people learned how to exploit.

Create or discover? Well, like the chicken and egg, which is first? I'm of both minds where 'discover' is given respect. So, Poisson's name is on stuff. He created this. Or, was he describing what he saw and we labelled it with his name as if the underlying ability came about with observation?

With the internet, we get to reason on these things, again, albeit with some practical focus as the intent is to use the thing properly, smartly, and to the best of our ability. I've put out a few posts about this. In July, it was Techie stuff. There were things before, say the technology blog. This started at WordPress[dot]com but, recently, moved to be under our 'portal to truth' (lots to discuss there). At that site, we have continued our blogging about decisions.

I have been working alone, for the most part, just following my intuition. 'Minimal' was one goal. Last fall, I mentioned some Google discussions that were right on (in this old guy's mind) and comforting, actually. Though, as an aside, they own this blog space. We're looking to pull it, too, under our portal.

In the meantime, AI is going bonkers. It's obvious, to me, that the black box can be tamed. It'll take us getting back to logic. What the hey? Minsky of MIT went to his grave arguing that the aNN (no matter the variations, thereof) as not the way. Not that I agree with him entirely, but he was not off the mark. Everywhere, we see AI this and AI that. Makes one wonder if some parts of the populace have lost their marbles.

As an aside, our portal thoughts make use of the fact that Thomas Gardner is almost a tabula rasa given that we know only a little but have the huge set of progeny to ponder. That means, in other words, the 'every man' is the theme or meme. We'll get back to that.

This blog has been going for 10 years. We started the WordPress one due to the details being handled with regard to choices. Of course, as we studied, we had to see where the crowd was going (below). And (yes, this is real), every time, we looked at what led to the current state (our's and the world of computing's) and tsk'd (want to know why? paying attention to the messes?). Sheesh. Do we ever get anything right? For anything of benefit, there are a slew of side-effects, costs (what have you) that are negatively imposing. This is without fail.

AI came on the scene, again, the past few years. Gaga time. This time, though, the older minds were saying, wait, let's talk: ACM, IEEE, etc. So, that's something else to discuss.

But, with regard to what the TGS needs, we have to develop. I have run across roll-your-own schemes. Guess what? The monied crowd does this to remove dependencies upon others. I'm stressing it due to issues of truth engineering. In any case, code will be to the fore. What? Yes, too many are being led down paths to perdition, it seems. We have been right so far in that assessment. I don't see glowing examples, yet.

As an aside, with regard to the below, we were doing Microsoft in the (mis-guided?) notion of going with ASPX and its way of the world. We'll mention this again.

But, the tools are there for us to do things better. Metrics, in other words, used wisely can be quite helpful. The benefits that have accrued properly to technology are examples. Lots of them. So, getting back to the theme of the post, here is an example.

This image comes from the source for a post that is worth reading: How WordPress Changed the Internet - 17 Facts about WordPress. I like it if only it shows that the old guy isn't off the wall. 

Aside: The source? W³Tech and their Web usage surveys where they are looking at content management. Look at the count! Babel building.  

In the 2012 time frame, as we were being kicked off of Microsoft's site, I looked at all three of these. In fact, I prototype'd a TGS site. At the time, I was up to my ears in new information having started to really get into the history and genealogy of the Cape Ann crew. So, there wasn't time to play with configuration when 'content' was the key thing. Notice the comparative growth of these three.

Aside, content and configuration? These differ (the media is not the message).

I looked at WordPress, again, in 2014. Those prototypes had been done under our own server. In the new mode, I went and built under WordPress' site (in the beginning, there were no ads; they came later; hence, we're moving). But, in 2012, I fell back to HTML, tables, icons, and mouse handling. It worked. On the 2014 go around, I brought in CSS and some javascript. The latter was, finally, made more central as it builds the page.

Now, what was one problem in 2012? The database. Too much of it (let's discuss). We can go into this, but the TGS site uses Linux and files. Guess what? Recently, after reading some UBerkeley stuff on AI, I went to GitHub, finally. Ah, the choices, related to text or graphics, etc., were all there for daily discussion while people were, at the same time, doing useful stuff within their chosen framework.

Talk diversity. This is one type that we need and can handle. Though, there are always forces pushing for homogeneity. Mathematicians love this.

BTW, on the latest look at WordPress, as I was bringing it into our portal, I looked at the 'biz' aspects of its use. Nickel and dime'ing was my reaction; like the menu that is ala carte. Nice, but, I want to see what's under the cover (or hood or ... - we used to say). Too, I want more than mere parametric influences. BTW, that is one issue with DL and AI, right now.

Yes, again, anyone interested in machine learning in the context of TGS, pipe up, please.

Closing this out, we have lots of things pending. See this blog that will move (https://jmswtlk.github.io/GitHub-ing/) which will cover the deeper technical issues as we go along. So, indeed, we're talking infrastructure in a new sense, actually senses.

Oh yes, ASPX. Recently, I have been helping in a situation where this is the framework. Not as a developer, but rather as a late tester of a new process. Interesting. Some things I liked, others not. How to get the proper balance will always be a key thing? And, whose balance?

Aside, again. The earlier post pointed to a project management scheme that has gotten a lot of attention. It reminds me of the old Apple package that was card-based. That is, one had cards that linked in a manner that was fairly powerful (we're talking 80s, folks). I see it referenced from time to time. Lift the covers, and you'll find old routines still supporting the computing world. Trouble is, though, that it's in the GUI world. Most stuff is. Developers? Many stay away from that. Actually, WikiTree is balanced and a joy to use. GitHub is more textual with add-ons for the GUI'ness.

How ought we to go? Decisions will be made. None will be in concrete.

When looking at Drupal and Joomla, I also looked at Concrete 5. It's still around. The Army picked it. Okay. How does one decide in all of this? Want to know. Computational sustainability. That'll be a future topic.

Aside: Paying attention? Old guy off the wall? Well, no, here is a current discussion of Concrete CMS versus Wordpress. Of course, it is from Concrete CMS's viewpoint. You see, 'new infrastructure' points to changes that will be permanent. Users want more control. Developers want tools. Content creators and managers want ease of applying power. Finally, John can say, about time. Maturity?  

Remarks: Modified: 10/07/2022

10/07/2022 -- Updated graphic on WordPress which had come from a survey. Put in pointers to survey. This week, decided to use WordPress to prototype our configuration. 

Charter Street Cemetery, Salem, MA

Seems that this year, we're looking at cemeteries. Early on we were considering what happened to the one at Gardner's Hill. This will feature in our 400th planning. We were also looking at some grave decisions in Lynn, MA.

In this case, one of the oldest cemeteries in the U.S. (1637) is being closed before the Halloween season. Many of us are happy about this as we have heard stories of misuse for several years. Thousands descend upon Salem in order to celebrate various views. This year, the cemetery will be off limits, as the city of Salem had planned some renovations (Preserving Salem) to start soon. This will also give them a chance to further assess ways and means. Some renovations will be established paths through the area which is adjacent to the Witch Trials Memorial (lots to study in that regard: Dr. Frank's grandmother - Lucy Foster Wilson Gardner).

The blog, Streets of Salem, looked at the subject which motivated this post: Cemetery under siege.

The Cemetery has a Gardner Annex which we will be looking at further. Jonathan Gardner #105, for whom Rev. Bentley preached a sermon, was buried there along with his wife, Sarah Putnam. We will research burials of others, in this cemetery, who are related. Dr. Frank mentions several Gardners with stones in the cemetery.

This cemetery is also known as Burial Point Cemetery (findagrave). The 'Famous Memorials' comes up with five names, all related: Simon Bradstreet, John Hathorne, Francis Higginson, Samuel McIntire, and Capt. Richard More. There are 18 graves with the name 'Gardner' associated with them. There are 12 graves with the name 'Higginson' on as last name.

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Part of the renovations concerns headstones. This image is of Mary Blakeman Higginson's stone being reset. She was the wife of Rev. John Higginson who was the son of Rev. Francis Higginson (Wikipedia). A grandson of Rev. John, named John Higginson (WikiTree), married Hannah, daughter of Samuel Gardner who was son of George who was son of Thomas and Margaret. A descendant was Col. Thomas W. Higginson.

Remarks: Modified: 09/16/2019

09/14/2019 -- Updated material about the Higginson family. Rev. Francis is the one who wrote, glowingly, of the Great House (Cape Ann) that had been moved to Salem by John Endicott.

Planning, TGA, Vol V, No 1

Earlier, we had notes about the research for this issue of TGA. Now, we're to considering having two issues, again, as we did with earlier releases of the report. As we pull things together, we remind those interested that we can accept submissions for publication.

As well, after this volume is completed (Vol V), we will pull the first five volumes together into a book suitable for gifting to libraries. Support  would be appreciated.

This is a sketched table of contents for this volume that is provided to promote discussion and help keep us organized.

• recap our 10 years of work and give a look at the different means that we are using to provide information.
• finalize our review of Dr. Frank's lineage as we found his notes about his mother's family.
• write up an appreciation for Sidney Perley's work which was carried on by Dr. Frank's sister after Sidney quit his Essex Antiquarian efforts and went on to write the History of Salem.
• initiate a biz section that will provide a status, starting with a look at 5 years of Incorporation.
• initiate an art section, starting with a narrative of old Ipswich, that will be a regular feature and will look at, and use, art as information.
• initiate a tech section, starting with an overview of issues related to technology and media especially in the climate of growing uncertainty about web-based information.
• initiate a details section, starting with an update to the index to cover the 10 volumes of Gardner's Beacon.

Given the decade of work, we need to stop to pull things together. Or start to do that. As well, we have gathered lots of information about Dr. Frank. There is more pending. So, we will offer that in a cohesive manner.

Remarks: Modified: 09/11/2019

09/11/2019 --

Families, sites and such

On 26 Sept 2010, I did the third post of this blog: Families, related families, sites and questions.

• 'Families' were other Gardners; this was taken over by a well-read post: Gardners and Gardners. This was written two days later. 
• 'related families' had to do with websites of families who have Gardner in their index.  This was partly handled by the post, Electronic footprint, from 4 Feb 2014. Several sites have considerable information about Thomas, on-line. 
• 'sites' point to information by other families. Pointing to this resource is part of our What we know? series which started on 27 Nov 2012. 
• 'questions' were many from the beginning, however we did establish a FAQ on 04 March 2015. Well, at least, we waited almost five years before assuming to know enough to start answering questions, as well as asking them. 

The following is a list of sites that have Gardner. We are restarting the list since technology changes and websites reconfigure. Updates here will be reflected in the original material.

Gardner

• Descendants of Richard: Gardner Annex. 

Collateral

• Holcomb - this was seen earlier but re-introduced with the post on Boris Johnson. See the chart related to the Foote ancestry found in the related article. 
• ...

Leveraging off the work of others has benefits for the several parties involved.

Remarks: Modified: 09/14/2019

09/10/2019 --

Edward III and Boris

I couldn't resist this. Earlier, I did an answer on Quora to this question:

My ancestry is more than 75% English. What are the chances I'm related to King Edward III? 

First, note that it says 'related to' not 'descendant from.' So, that is one key. Another is that modern technology allows a little more precision in this type of search. Of course, there are more things to discuss, but let's avoid those this time. The answer allowed me to feature WikiTree using Dr. Frank A. Gardner's lineage to the extent that we know it (we extended this last fall using his notes about his mother's heritage). Later, I was able to see his father's notes in an early copy of the 1907 book (given to Stephen Wilson Gardner by Dr. Frank).

The work, notes, books and such went along with a burst of energy and activity related to genealogy and family history motivated, in part, by the 300th celebration. Now, we have the 400th look-backs either coming up or having already started, such as the Mayflower activity. Due to several factors (location, family ties, and more), the Mayflower descendants have been more scrutinized than many others. Yet, the information is not entirely complete according to one blog post. We will get back to that, take the case of Richard More who will be mentioned in a coming post. We looked at him earlier: seemingly lost, rediscovered, related to the family, etc.

In fact, Richard came up as I was going through notes to find the earliest Mayflower connections with the children of Thomas and Margaret, eight of whom had children. Richard's daughter married the son (Joshua Conant) of Thomas' daughter (Seeth). Further, Richard's sister-in-law married a Woodbury so there are all sorts of relationships to follow through on. Even with technology, those things are tedious and error prone: tired/old eyes, say, or quality of the provenance of the material being used.

Oh for a good database to start with. Well, there are several, hence the Mayflower reference. We can use those as a yardstick for comparison. There is more, as many who came over had known histories. The Mayflower look back is considering their ancestors in this regard. And, their data can be used for studies, such as mentioned in this answer:

  What person is descended from the most number of Mayflower passengers?.

There is a chart to a related theme of 'How long is a generation?' The data from the 'fifth generation' from the Mayflower one provides a view that only technology can give us. We need to keep that in mind.

Everyone, for the most part, has Edward III as some focal point, for Americans. Later ties are clearer and less prevalent. Earlier ties are associated with huge amounts of hits. BTW, WikiTree's efforts at their Magna Carta Gateway study are apropos. Lineage path by lineage path, the route from Gateway Ancestor to a Baron is being confirmed, using Richardson's books, for one.

What of the other side of the waters? Well, this recent blog post looks at one person of current interest: Edward to Boris, how many times? The author did the generation length study mentioned above. He references work by both Douglas Richardson (mentioned above) and Gary Roberts.

Relevance? This same type of work and technology needs to be done with Thomas, Margaret and all who relate to them. What Edward III studies allow is sufficient material that has been scrutinized for centuries. Getting away from that brings in all sorts of uncertainties that can be interesting in themselves.

BTW, Boris, of course, is the newly appointed (as of August 2019) U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson. He has an American Ancestry. But, we can use this work for other families, too, as Gateway Ancestors left family in the old country.

It's nice to see this type of thing where news motivates research and holes close. Then, the small folk can leverage off the work of the big-time folks ;>).

There are several hundred mappings from Boris to Ed III. The post's image looks at one. That is one aspect of the situation. Say, for lineage? One maps directly. Or with the one with the most documentation. Maybe, later, one goes back and fills in collateral information. But, other people (cousins) can leverage off of this work, if they have siblings of someone on a pedigree line.

We'll have several posts later related to this 'open issue' for Gardners.

Remarks: Modified: 08/09/2021

09/09/2019 --

3 trails

We have had several posts looking at places with the Gardner name. One of these is Gardner, KS near which is Gardner Junction which was on the three trails: Santa Fe, Oregon, California. This is unique, to be where the travelers all were at the same place. The research query was in regard to some particular places, but we know that we need to get a more full list (pending).

Recently, we were in the area where the Trails were going toward Gardner. As well, we thought to look at more details (below). This same route was taken by the New England party (men and women) that left via a port in New York and sailed to Chicago before traveling over to St. Louis and west to Kansas City. They got to an area and established Lawrence, KS (Final migration, Lawrence and Kansas).

On looking deeper, we found the 3-Trails Corridor (defunct link). This was funded by a school initiative that looked to be associated with the Lewis and Clark celebration: 3-Trails Village Community Improvement District. We will look at this further. But, here are a couple of maps. One is from our earlier post. The other depicts points along the route.

Gardner, KS

We have had several posts on this theme and will be adding more. It's about time for a summary look which will appear in the next issue of The Gardner Annals, Vol. V, No. 1. The trails played a major role in the western movement. Too, we need to add in the Mormon experience.

As mentioned in an early post, there were to sea routes to California: around the Cape, two  voyages linked by a trek across Central America.

The gist is that this type of detail work is what one expects from a location. Same goes for a family. There may be major overviews, but a lot of the grunt work needs to be done by the family. Dr. Frank showed us one example. We still have lots of work to do.

So, there are several pending bits of work with Gardner Junction which is the southern trek out of the Kansas City area. This route was fine for the folks going to Santa Fe. But, it was out of the way for the California (gold rush) and Oregon trekkers. It went too far south. Young bucks figured out that they could continue north by water to St. Joseph, MO. This area became last stopping point where dry goods and other merchants had supplies at hand. The travelers still had to cross the Missouri river.

As an aside, some earlier posts looked at the trek from New England to Lawrence, KS. The movement was by foot, for the most part, in the last part of the journey. And, there was a river to be forded prior to arriving at Lawrence. So, this was practice for something that would be a continual source of grief all of the way across the country.

Far cry, one might say, from the easy of rushing down the Interstate. BTW, that subject is of interest, too, since many of those merchants were Yankees.

Perspective: From the KC area to Fort Larned (see the Kansas part of the Santa Fe trail - about 2/3 across the State), the experience was a daily grind for three weeks (makes "are we there yet?" which is known from another perspective to be quite tame). At least, at some point, those same persons saw the Sangre de Cristo mountain range. We have a post on that, too.

This image shows the area near Gardner KS where one finds a kiosk with information about the 3 Trails and Gardner Junction.

Remarks: Modified: 06/24/2022

08/07/2020 -- In this post, we are looking at two disparate spots that share a name, however there are many points in-between. Like Eudora, KS. Where "The Wakarusa meets the Kaw" is on their history site and is an example of local lore getting some attention. See "Along the Western Trails."

08/27/2020 -- Removed stale pointer to 3TrailsCorridor which dealt with the portion in MO: The 3-Trails Corridor follows the traveled way of the Santa Fe,  Oregon, and California national historic trails. It extends from Wayne City Landing on the Missouri River in Sugar Creek, Missouri, where the river boats off-loaded onto wagons and pack animals, southwesterly to Gardner Junction in Gardner, Kansas.

06/24/2022 -- Updated links to Eudora's website as topic continues to be of interest: A Ride to Kansas.